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Care and Feeding of a Retired Archbishop

Posted: Saturday, October 27th, 2012
Abp Wynn Wagner (ret) on a Rhine River boat (Germany, 2012)

Abp Wynn Wagner (ret)
Rhine River boat (Germany, 2012)

Unless you are a public figure (or Mark Raven), I am probably going to be slow to anger. That’s my goal, but I am definitely a work-in-progress.

[WTF]Others don’t take the same tact. I still have 30+ “friends” on Facebook who report they “like” Mitt Romney. That’s down from about 300. I still feel like I have 30+ “friends” who don’t have enough in common to start any kind of conversation. They seem to want to stick around, and I don’t know how.

It’s none of my business who follows me on Facebook. You can “like” whomever and whatever you want. But……

My goal here is to avoid trouble “down the line.” I usually don’t do a flamewar in public (the exception being if you publicly bully somebody). But just so you know–

Books

  • I write spiritual books and gay romance novels. I even have one tarot book. Yes, that’s all over the publishing map. No, I don’t use pen names to keep my romance fiction from intermingling with my liturgical books. Maybe I should, but I don’t.
  • Some authors have separate profiles for their books. It’s a nice division: personal vs shameless promotions. (shrug) Maybe I’m too stupid to do that kind of social parsing, but I have one page where everything gets thrown together like a tossed salad. My two publishers — MysticWays Books (MWB) and Dreamspinner Press — have Facebook pages. MWB has pages for Wynn Wagner Books and Brent: the Heart Reader. Brent gets its own page because it’s an inductee into the Gay Book Hall of Fame, and MWB says that is a huge deal. I don’t run or edit all those pages: just my personal page. The point is that I still get homophobes on Facebook who swear they want to be my “friend.” (scratching head)

Politics

  • My politics is way out on the left where the busses don’t even run. I’m liberal (radical?), and I don’t mind saying so in public.
  • I’ll usually react when my Annoyance Meter goes over about 40% on political matters.

Religion

  • My religion is Old Catholic. That means I like really traditional liturgies and very progressive spiritual teachings. Yes, it’s Catholic. No, it isn’t Roman Catholic. If you’re curious about that, I have some awesome books to suggest!
  • I am a retired archbishop of the Old Catholic Church, and I’m fairly sure that the Church would appreciate my stressing that I don’t speak (or write) for anybody but me.
  • When organized religion crosses what I consider a theocratic line of proper behavior, I will stand up and wag my finger and scream about it as loudly as I can. In many cases, religion (mainly Christian and Muslim) ought to be ashamed of their bullying. It’s fine for them to order their adherents to do such-and-such or believe a certain way. It’s a whole other matter if they want me to do or believe what they preach. And I think it’s almost criminal for a religion to try to insert their dogma into civil law.
  • You don’t have to be Old Catholic for me to pay attention to you. I won’t even suggest you “convert” but will try to get you pointed in the right direction if you ask.
  • I honor your spiritual pathway.
  • I’ll usually react if you cross the line and demand everyone follow your path. Religious firefights get nasty quickly, and I really don’t like it when that happens. [cf., Billy Jack]
  • If you really want a philosophical fight, I will usually try to give you a head start. I have a couple of advanced degrees in philosophy and theology, so I have the home field advantage and I’m not too proud to use it (if push and shove come to play)

 LGBT

  • I’m gay, but I never-ever came “out of the closet.” That would have been dumb because I’ve never been in the closet (except to get fresh clothes each Spring).
  • Since I retired from my day job and from my duties in the Old Catholic Church, I don’t have any kind of tether (or net) to keep me quiet around homophobes.
  • Picking on any LGBTQ person in my earshot usually doesn’t end peacefully. (Just sayin’)

Sports

  • I don’t think it’s a big deal. It isn’t my defining moment, but you hang around me on football, you will probably see me screammg about sports teams (especially American football). In advance… sorry ’bout that.

The Red Line

  • Finally (and this is the real reason for this blog post), I take threats of death and injury seriously. Please don’t do it. The “Unfriend” button is fairly simple to use on Facebook, even for a right-winger or homophobe. I won’t mind if you use that button. I won’t even mind of you decide to block my posts. Promise.

Civil Unions is a half-measure

Posted: Saturday, December 31st, 2011

Photo is from Diane’s Muse

By Wynn Wagner

Several states now allow what they call civil unions.

I’m happy that my gay brothers and lesbian sisters can approach equality with those born heterosexual. It’s a step, but it isn’t equality.

This isn’t a gay issue. It is a matter of religion.

My church — the Old Catholic Church — teaches that sexual orientation is not a barrier to marriage. Gay men and lesbian women can marry in the Old Catholic Church. Most priests don’t blink an eye or hyperventilate when they’re asked to perform a gay wedding. In fact, one of the oldest marriage rites we have is for two men from what we call the Orthodox Church.

The Roman Catholic Church thinks it differently. Rome’s church was established in the year 1054, regardless of their marketing attempts to claim it is the “original” Christian sect. Rome says that so-called traditional marriage is always between one man and one woman. Balderdash.

The Roman emperor Charlemagne (742-814) is considered one of the great Christian emperors. He led the Rome back when there was one Christian denomination. He was the leader of Rome when the Old Catholic Church was formed in Holland, by the way.

But here’s the thing: Charlemagne had eighteen children over the course of his life with eight of his ten known wives or concubines. He had multiple wives at the same time, and he never apologized for that. He was a Christian with a stronger claim to “traditional marriage” than anything Rome can put forward.

It’s find for a religion to define marriage however they like. If the Romists and Baptists want one-man-one-woman as their prototype, they’ll never get an argument from me. The argument comes when they try to inflict their dogma onto my reality map.

I’m not Roman Catholic. I’m not Baptist. Yet, they try to control my church.

The Bill of Rights in America says that government isn’t supposed to pass laws that restrict the free exercise of religion, but they do pass those laws. They have judges who claim to be reasonable but restrict my religion every day.

What needs to happen is this: the US government needs to get out of the religion business. My church heralds love in a diverse array. Marriage is a glorious gift.

I shouldn’t have a law that promotes rules of some johnny-come-lately churches like the Roman Catholics and the Baptists.

Bravo for civil unions! Now, can y’all stay the heck out of dogma?

Photo is from Diane’s Muse.